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I have been going to the gym for 2 years and 3 months now. My primary goal is to build muscle.

I have to admit that in the first 2 years, I only used machines. Sometimes I used dumbbells, but no barbells at all. I went to the gym up to 4 times a week, up to 90 minutes each. I used full-body routine back then: up to 8 different workouts with 4 sets x 8 reps. I noticed that I was getting stronger each day and I built some muscles.

After those 2 years, I thought I should level-up myself, from beginner to intermediate level. I read articles from the internet and I thought it'd be better for me to switch my routine to split. So for the last 3 months, I go to the gym 3 times a week. The days are splitted into: triceps+chest, biceps+back, and shoulders+legs. Each consists of 7 different workouts with 4 sets x 12 reps. This is also my first time to incorporate barbells. Yep, I just learnt how to bench-press last 3 months.

But this hits me hard. I feel weaker day-by-day. At first I thought it's because the workouts are different from the usual and more stress out specific part of the body. But I didn't notice any improvement on my muscle size either. The fat% however is somehow also increasing. Now I feel a bit unmotivated...

So, what is actually going on here? Did I make any mistake or miss something? Should I change back to my old full-body routine (if this is the case, I might improve the regimen by incorporating the barbell tho)? As the fat% increase, did I unintentionally change my diet to unhealthier one?

  • As this is my first post, I don't really know how detail should I give my information. Let me know if I should clarify more! :) – user32933 Mar 8 at 16:12
  • Have you taken a break at all in the three months since you moved to free weights? Three months straight training is a long time. Free weights are more intense than machines so you exhaust easier (but they're overall more effective and you should absolutely continue the free weights option even if it requires some adjustment). – DeeV Mar 8 at 16:29
  • @DeeV I don't think I ever take a long break, except the other 4 days which I may use for badminton or cardio (or just rest), FYI. – user32933 Mar 8 at 16:55
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In order to get stronger you should generally train each muscle 2 or 3 times a week with at least one day of rest in between. There are some exceptions to this guideline. For instance the deadlift can be trained once a week. However it is a good general guideline, and I believe it is where you are going wrong in your training.

So if you want to do your 3 way split you should train 6 days a week. I found an example of the 3 way push/pull split you are using. Here they clearly state: train 3 consecutive days, rest one day, repeat. A little less (5.25 actually) than the 6 days I estimated above, but a lot more than the 3 days you are currently doing. Instead you may do a two way split. Either a 4 day push/pull split or a 4 day lower/upper split.

Personally I find 4 times a week too much so I prefer a full body program 3 (or sometimes 2) times a week. Currently I am following the Phrakture Greyskull variation: enter image description here

BTW I can recommend the book "The new rules of lifting" by Schuler and Cosgrove. It explains the principles behind getting stronger in a simple manner. It also explains how you can substitute other exercises for the exercises in say the program above. As an example the bench press is a horizontal push. Instead you may choose another horizontal push such as (weighted) push-ups (and I do).

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  • Ah, now I see the difference. Previously each muscle trained 3 times a week, but now it's only once. Also thanks for the references and the book! Now I'm a bit in dillemma tho: if for example I don't mind go to the gym 4 times a week, does it mean it's better for me to go with 4 day push/pull split? Or is full-body actually also work? (Recalling I switched to split because I thought it's better -- is it not always true?) – user32933 Mar 8 at 23:20
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    +1 for the Phrak Greyskull recommendation. Best novice routine for general strength building imo. @athin , splits are a good choice once you're past the point where the volume you need to progress further becomes too much for you to do in a single full-body workout. But fwiw, that's significantly later than most people seem to think. – UnbescholtenerBuerger Mar 9 at 6:48
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I noticed that I was getting stronger each day and I built some muscles. [...] After those 2 years, I thought I should level-up myself, from beginner to intermediate level. [...] Yep, I just learnt how to bench-press last 3 months.

I think part of the problem here is that you prematurely levelled yourself up. For starters, if you've just moved from machines to barbells, you should give that some time. There are some new muscles your body will make you aware of. Secondly, there are a lot of ways in which people define beginner, intermediate, and advanced weightlifters but I think this is the best definition:

Beginner: Responds to linear progression.

Intermediate: No longer responds to linear progression, needs to implement short term periodization.

Advanced: Needs to implement long term periodization.

Excerpt from this Reddit post.

I was trying to find a video of Jeff Nippards where he says his favourite definition of the three; I can't find it though. It was something along the lines of beginners make weekly strength gains, intermediate lifters make monthly strength gains, and advanced lifters make yearly strength gains.

"Intermediate" programs that are on the internet are usually 'splits' that follow the "beginner" full-body workouts. As @Andy mentioned, you've gone from working each muscle four times a week, to once per week. The reason you would use a training split is if your muscles no longer had enough recovery time in-between workouts. This is not your case and so they are getting more rest than you need and you're missing your supercompensation. Rest days are important but if you space them out too much you end up under-training.

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  • Thanks for the answer! Now I fully aware muscle building needs a great patience... I'm reverting my split program to full-body one as @Andy said -- also changing most machine workouts with free weights. – user32933 Mar 9 at 23:24
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    @athin -- look up Jeff Nippard on YouTube. He just did a series looking at the science of full-body workouts and then does it at an advanced level. Best of luck! – C. Lange Mar 10 at 2:04
  • Link: Full Body Science Applied Workout – C. Lange Mar 10 at 17:02
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You experience the most growth when you start working out because your body is not used to it. In a way, you experience the most “difference” during that time. You can become stronger not only through hypertrophy but also neural adaptations (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-does-exercise-make-yo/).

As you workout for a longer period of time doing the same routine, your growth slows, and you will hear numerous advices asking you to switch things up. Challenge your body and they will adapt and become stronger!

I believe the main benefits of full body routine is efficiency and being able to hit a greater total volume for a given muscle.

This is a great article to learn and understand how muscle hypertrophy works!

https://medium.com/@SandCResearch/explaining-how-hypertrophy-works-using-only-basic-principles-of-muscle-physiology-48beda5fbf1b

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