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How does the average Joe and the plain Jane train and prepare to do 110 pull ups in a row non-stop super strict form and no hanging rest,both hands always holding the bar and at least one repetition every 2 seconds?

How do the Athlete Joe and the Athlete Jane train to achieve the exact same feat of strength?

Athlete Joe/Jane is by no means a strong person but on a good day can do 30 reps in a row maybe one more at best and finds it hard to progress further from there. Athlete Joe/Jane can be considered a beginner overall but slightly more proficient at upper body exercises than the average Joe/jane .

Requirements are as follows:

  • the methods must be time efficient and not result in overtraining
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    Is this a real problem you face? What's your current ability? Why are you asking about two different people? – Dave Liepmann Jun 13 at 14:59
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    30+ pull-ups is falling into elite athlete territory. What you are suggesting is world record material, especially since basically every pull-up record was achieved with partial range of motion or awful form. – JustSnilloc Jun 13 at 17:30
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    Wait, so you're asking how to beat the pullup world record by five reps? As a beginner? Because you want to train your ten year old brother? I dont even – UnbescholtenerBuerger Jun 13 at 18:18
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    That record seemed legitimate, most don’t though. As I already mentioned you’re talking about world record territory, far beyond what most will ever come close to. This site is useful for understanding what’s normal and what isn’t. strengthlevel.com/strength-standards/pull-ups/lb – JustSnilloc Jun 13 at 18:26
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    @Alec I don't challenge the validity of the question. However, I read it as "How does a beginner best train to increase their reps on pullups up to top 0.1% athletes territory". And I doubt this is something that can be answered in a satisfying manner in a few paragraphs on a q&a site by complete strangers. – UnbescholtenerBuerger Jun 13 at 20:42
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How does [someone] prepare to do 110 pull ups in a row

Start by recognizing this as an extreme goal. I bet the people achieving >75 pull-ups got there by doing gymnastics or bar calisthenics for years. Coming even close to this number of pull-ups in one set is such a rare skill that you shouldn't ask anyone who hasn't done it. (Elite training is so incredibly different from even advanced intermediate training that usually-helpful answers stop making sense.)

Someone who does a hundred pull-ups in a set loves pull-ups. Their motivation to do pull-ups is not just better than anyone they know, it's better than anyone in their country--in the whole world. They may enjoy training for pull-ups more than they enjoy anything else in the world. You don't know if you like training for pull-ups at all.

What I recommend is this: get acquainted with pull-ups. Get moderately good at them then decide whether you love the process (not the goal!) so much that you're willing to sacrifice unreasonable amounts of time, effort, and relationships to work on it. Then decide if more pull-ups are still your goal.

Here's what I'd try: begin with fitting 100 pull-ups into every workout. Then fit those reps into as few sets as possible. Try all the different grips, and prove to yourself that you're at least good at all of them, even if you have a favorite. Then increase the total number of pull-ups -- I'd add 10 every week until I doubled it. At the same time I'd start doing some workouts with pull-up variants: weighted, one-arm progressions, holds, archers, playing with tempo and partial reps, and so on. After this point you'll have to get a little creative, a little crazy: start optimizing your bodyweight for this task, and finding accessory exercises which address your weak points. By now you may have experienced a training injury forcing you to get familiar with some anatomy and amateur physical therapy or other medical or medical-adjacent topics.

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    Why would elite training be different? As far as I’m aware for strength training they don’t even have an excessive number of training sessions. Overall training volume also seems to be surprisingly low. – Michael Jun 14 at 7:12
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    @Michael Beginner and elite training are extremely different. Novices need GPP and a slow ramp-up of training volume, and do well with linear increases in intensity. Advanced training is the opposite in many (most?) disciplines, especially strength sports. I could be wrong but as I understand it, similar training differences are present in gymnastics. – Dave Liepmann Jun 14 at 9:15
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    I just don’t see how elite training would be fundamentally different. Of course for a total beginner basically any exercise in any form will lead to an improvement, but when done properly it’s still all about managing intensity, proper form, volume, recovery, injury prevention etc. etc. Maybe the focus will be more on some areas, but I can’t think of any factor which is totally irrelevant for a beginner while being important for an elite and vice versa. – Michael Jun 14 at 12:52
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    I would also point out that this sort of goal is best served by hiring a coach who specializes in this sort of thing. That’s how it works with basically any sufficiently high level sport. To reach such heights, expert assistance is invaluable. – JustSnilloc Jun 14 at 15:31
  • @Michael I guess if you abstract over the entire process then novice training does indeed deal with the same topics as elite training, but my point is that the implementation details are basically not the same in any way. As I understand it this it basic sports science so I'm not sure where we misunderstand each other. – Dave Liepmann Jun 15 at 10:17
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You could keep your bodyweight mass down, lose fat if you have any, and do several lat exercises such as landmine rows with t bar, or lat bars, one armed rows, etc. Use an endurance type rep scheme(15-20). Working your forearm strength and grip as well as core and biceps to some degree with additional training. Try adding weight here and there but focus more on increasing reps since this is your goal. Outside of this.. just do 6 sets of amap reps of pullups a couple times a week and try to increase your numbers each time. If you fail, stop and start a new set. At the end of the month., try the pull up challenge again. Eventually you'll hit a very high number of reps to where muscular endurance and cardio are going to be the factors that get you that high. You will have to truly work on yourself, and be very lean. Try to not gain too much muscle, even losing muscle in legs might help you.

Reevaluate where you are at the end of each month.. what breaks first, your grip, energy, back, shoulders? And work on those things first.

To reach record high nymbers, you'll have to lose as much weight as you can while keeping your muscles strong. You'll potentially even have to lose muscle in places that don't matter just to she'd a few pounds off such as chest, triceps, legs, etc..

Genetics can play a key role too.. for instance a 5'4 person is going to weigh less and be more mechanically advantages to do more pullups than a 6,0 person

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    "you'll have to lose as much weight as you can " - getting "lucky" with some illnesses requiring surgical intervention might help. Having had my complete large intestine removed a couple of years ago, I came out of the operating theater about 10kg lighter than I went in, probably with no consequence for muscle strength to do pullups (and the recovery time after the op was only a couple of weeks). Having your legs amputated would also save quite a bit of irrelevant body mass! – alephzero Jun 13 at 23:28
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    I think losing weight is one of the keys here. Imagine doing pull-ups with two or three large buckets of water attached to your feet -- that's average Joe's body mass compared to a person with optimal weight. And going for extremes like this record you may need an optimized body for this specific record as well. No legs would be best; if that's against the rules, make them as small as you can. – Peter - Reinstate Monica Jun 14 at 13:07
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Don't.

If you can do 100 pullups, unless you're doing it to prove a point or show off, training to do 110 is a huge waste of time, because the majority of your time is spent slowly reaching your limit, at which point gains can be made.

Instead, make the exercise harder until you're reaching your limit at, say, ten reps. For pullups, perhaps make moves towards one-armed pullups, starting with doing them from side to side, progressing to holding on to a towel with one arm instead of the bar, etc.

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  • I can already do one arm pull ups...I could argue that training to do anything is really a waste of time – user33399 Jun 15 at 12:14
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Kipping!

When I started doing pull-ups I could barely do 2 or 3. One day I strapped myself in to a machine that was designed to lighten my weight. I adjusted the machine so I weighed nothing. Then I did 20 pull-ups. I kept removing counterweights and doing 20 more pull-ups each time. Within an hour my body had learned to do the pull-ups without assistance from the counterweights. I didn't weigh much at the time, probably 120lbs. So, that would have been 240 pull-ups in an hour, with brief breaks in between to remove counterweights.

My upper body strength did not magically improve in that hour, but my body had learned how to perform the necessary movements.

Soon after (within minutes - I was sitting on my cot, resting), I was called out to a pull-up bar and told to do pull-ups. I knocked out 20 easily, but was not allowed to dismount. Instead, I was told to keep going. Without much effort, I belted out another 15 before I was told to dismount. Really, hanging there waiting to dismount was more tiring.

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