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| Jun 27, 2012 at 16:43 | history | edited | DribblzAroundU82 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jun 27, 2012 at 10:07 | comment | added | Ivo Flipse | Ok, people time to relax. Perhaps Andreas could add Sancho's image to his answer or just point out your should perform squats in the correct form for your body structure. No need to make this discussion personal. If you strongly agree, simply post an opposing answer, add sufficient reference to back up any claims and let the voting sort this out | |
| Jun 27, 2012 at 7:30 | comment | added | Robin Ashe | I'm addressing problems with your answer. Claiming that knee injuries from squats is BS is disingenuous. Sure, if done properly /most/ people can do them safely, but that's not the same thing as all. Taking into account the outliers by not pre-emptively dismissing them is characteristic of a good answer. | |
| Jun 27, 2012 at 7:14 | comment | added | user3085 | That diagram shows the proper forms at the bottom of the squat for people of varying limb dimensions. In addition, people with long femurs will need to adopt a wider stance to help keep their knees a bit further back, but both types of people can get good at squats. Neither is at a higher risk of injury. Nothing replaces the squat for it's ability to train the entire posterior chain. | |
| Jun 27, 2012 at 7:11 | comment | added | Robin Ashe | And that diagram shows exactly what the problem is - the knees are that much farther forward, with heavy weights that's not going to be kind to them. Why force yourself to do an exercise that you'll never be very good at, and have a higher risk of injury, when you could do something else and get better results with less risk of injury? | |
| Jun 27, 2012 at 7:06 | comment | added | user3085 | Rippetoe, in his book Starting Strength, addresses the issues for people with long femurs and short torsos (see Figure 2-45: imgur.com/tCG1P). They require a change in the squat form, but there is a safe way for them to squat. Both forms "are correct, but both are different due to variations in leg and trunk length". These are both safe. Perhaps people with non-standard limb lengths get injured by trying to mimic the form of people with standard limb lengths. | |
| Jun 27, 2012 at 7:00 | comment | added | Robin Ashe | @Sancho, as I said, someone with a femur longer than their torso, and a shorter tibia would not be able to squat with what anyone would describe as proper form. That's definitely an outlier in terms of physical proportion, but that's why Doctors will say squats are bad for your knees - they get the outliers coming in with knee injuries from squats. They don't see anyone with ideal body geometry for squats coming in because for those people squats aren't a problem, and people with ideal body geometry assume someone who gets injured does so because of poor technique. | |
| Jun 27, 2012 at 6:41 | comment | added | DribblzAroundU82 | @RobinAshe sounds like a bunch of BS but i respect your input on saying squats can be dangerous. Yes, with improper form and physical obstacles forcing you not to sit deeper than you do on the toilet, squats can make or break or day. Still IMO the best exercise on the face of the planet. Any athlete who squats ATG controlled and correctly has excellent mobility. | |
| Jun 27, 2012 at 6:41 | comment | added | user3085 | For what type of person is any kind of squat dangerous? | |
| Jun 27, 2012 at 6:38 | comment | added | Robin Ashe | Quite frankly for some people, squats of any kind can be dangerous, depending on pre-existing injuries and unideal biomechanics - someone with a long femur and short torso is going to have a much harder time doing squats than someone who's proportional. | |
| Jun 27, 2012 at 6:33 | history | answered | DribblzAroundU82 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |