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| Jul 18, 2012 at 21:18 | comment | added | J. Win. | comment got garbled; anyways you get the point. +1 | |
| Jul 18, 2012 at 21:13 | history | edited | Robin Ashe | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jul 18, 2012 at 21:12 | comment | added | Robin Ashe | @J.Winchester good point, I realise I forgot to mention doing warmup sets. | |
| Jul 18, 2012 at 20:59 | comment | added | J. Win. | @robinashe I bet you are correct that there is no proof for optimality three sets vs one or five... However there is proof that you will not get maximum exertion when not warmed up. Someone who goes to a barbell (assuming somebody has already set up 3 different barbells with plates pre-loaded for all three exercises?) bangs out 20-30 total reps of three dif | |
| Jul 17, 2012 at 8:24 | comment | added | FredrikD | @J.WinchesterI think that if you are in a "maintenance state" the the idea of doing one set fits the overall picture better (less time etc) My own experience is that the negative thoughts of not being able to do the best workout stops you from working out at all. | |
| Jul 17, 2012 at 3:41 | comment | added | Robin Ashe | I don't even have to wait for you to try to answer to know that you'll be unable to find an proof for your assertion that you need multiple sets with at least 3 minutes of rest in between to see optimum results. | |
| Jul 17, 2012 at 2:24 | comment | added | J. Win. | @robin ashe, I was ready to give you a high five until I saw the five minutes item. While your scenario is better than doing nothing (as long as the weight is low enough to avoid injury) I think it will not stimulate muscle growth. A light weighted warmup followed by 2-3 sets, with significant (3-5 min) rest between sets will give better results. | |
| Jul 15, 2012 at 21:19 | comment | added | medmal | Mike Mentzer, Bill Pearl, Vince Gironda,... I've read them all - of course the publisher's blurbs stress the differences, not what they agree on. They write for an audience that spends too much time in the gym talking and then doing too many exercises for too few muscles using ineffective form with pointless weight. Training to true failure requires experienced spotters. Training to technical failure requires experience and humility. Stopping just before that last possible good rep might be best, but...Then of course there is the issue of the perfect warm up. Oh, and of course steroids. | |
| Jul 15, 2012 at 0:52 | comment | added | Robin Ashe | Mike Mentzer has made exactly that claim, and he's certainly someone who got to the peak of his potential. So unless he's practicing something entirely different from what he preaches, it's not an unreasonable position. Note though, that I made no claims myself about it being sufficient to reach your peak potential, so I'm not sure what rewording or clarification is necessary. | |
| Jul 15, 2012 at 0:24 | comment | added | Dave Liepmann | I'm sorry--5 minutes to do squats or deadlifts, a set of presses, and a set of pull-ups, once per week, and this will create gains to the peak of your potential? I think this needs a rewording or clarification. Most people need 5 minutes just to get warm to prevent injury, and one set each, once a week (while probably not so bad for health purposes) can't be said to get you anywhere close to your potential. | |
| Jul 14, 2012 at 15:14 | comment | added | FredrikD | well.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/12/the-hazards-of-the-couch A summary is that if you are too inactive (i.e. more than four hours) then doing high intensity doesn't help you. | |
| Jul 14, 2012 at 7:20 | comment | added | FredrikD | So a key element would be lifting heavy weight in a "maintenance state" as you described about once a week. Another would be to be "every day active". I know I have read that you also should be active at least every 40-45 minutes, will check up that reference | |
| Jul 13, 2012 at 15:42 | history | answered | Robin Ashe | CC BY-SA 3.0 |